[Liv nods. She also knows Elena has a job she probably isn't looking to walk out on, but that's something that's probably going to depend on the kids too. Where they want to go. Who they want to live with.]
You've got some time to figure it out. I think Elena said she didn't have to be back to work until after the New Year.
[Fortunately for Dean, Ben has a suggestion on that front. But that's for a later conversation.]
If it makes you feel better, you or Elena may not wind up responsible for all of them. I'm pretty sure Matt and potentially Jo are going to wind up on our couch just as much as yours.
[Liv is going to make a group chat called "Tyler and the Blonds."]
And most of them are grown adults. They may want to do their own thing.
Not worried about Matt and Jo. Jo always lands on her feet. And she better be on the horn if there are in hellhounds in the vicinity.
( Even her mom. It's still just a lot. And it's weird, but it could be more. And he's thinking about their Bobby, their Charlie, Kevin, Sam's Sarah. Crowley. Just people they utterly failed. )
True. And we'll let 'em provided they get enough to get off the ground.
I would rather only drag myself in three. Even two and a half. Thanks.
( But, she's right. The immediate shit he needs to think about. Even Sam's, Allison, her pack, is still Sam's. It's still a brother thing but... very manageable. )
Sam took care of a whole lot of displaced hunters from another universe once. If anyone can.
[Liv nods, before taking another sip of her drink.]
I don't really like how little information we have about why they're here. Not looking a gift horse in the mouth and magic does seem complete but ... some of it is too neat for it to wholly be a side effect of the ritual.
[Maybe this is too much talking shop for a holiday party, but like Dean, Liv will never not be looking for the other shoe to drop. Nice things don't just happen and Kai is not enough of a consequence for the scale of this.]
You think there's something more. Like, something that took advantage of the ritual?
( He could see that, because there are people that connect to who were there - blood-wise, even, heart-wise, and then there's a six degrees of separation he can't shake. )
[Liv tips her head to the side like "yeah, kind of."]
A powerful coven tried a major binding ritual at the same time a centuries-old curse was broken. Those are both pretty big magical shifts. If it was just an accident, like with Elena bleeding on Matt and the magic doing what it does, it would probably be just Matt and the end of the spell wouldn't have been so ... clean. Complete.
[Liv shakes her head.]
Someone with a lot of power - or the ability to control a lot of power did this. And there are very few witches that could pull something like that off.
[A beat.]
In fact, the only two I can think of were with us in Williamstown. So it wasn't them.
Elena bled on me, too. So, I could see Jo, too. Even her mom.
( But she's right, from there it's real hard to see the rest. Elena didn't bleed on Jeremy to get Jenna back. Nobody bled on Caroline or Tyler. They weren't even there. Cordelia, Angel, weren't there to get their friend Fred back. )
Liv! Merry Christmas. ( Oh, shop talk. Not to double hammer a nail down, but she needs some context. ) Not since Williamsburg, but, it's Christmas. Do you need her?
No. I haven't. I can ask. Is there any reason in particular. Hey Dean.
("Just going over... she and I both think this is more than just a spell gone wrong. Because there are people who appeared in Star City and New Orleans. And, apparently, Boston. Not just people who know Elena or Sam or me."
People who weren't even close to them or the fallout. )
And the fact that the spell seems complete and there's no lingering threads is really bugging me. It's like it was intentional, not some weird side effect of the ritual. And I said that I could only think of two witches who might be able to channel that kind of power that easily. But they were both with us.
[Which is fortunate.]
Even if they can't have a look at our new arrivals, maybe they might know a witch who is capable of handling that kind of power.
Dean and Liv are positing a few theories, and one they wanted me to ask about is the power it takes to do something like this. I can see the line drawn from Elena to some, and Dean and Sam, but there are others that aren't involved with any of us, except they were brought back. Allison was there, but does she have a connection to Derek's sister. And so on.
Liv mentioned that the only two witches she would think were capable of something like this were with us for the takeover.
[There's another period of silence, but that's mostly because Freya is typing. There's a lot of "..." coming and going across the bottom of their chat thread before she finally responds.]
I spoke with Davina about it, though I didn't examine any of them myself. She said that while she didn't recognize the magic there was something familiar to it. But the fact that the spell was complete and whole is what concerns me. That does not say accident.
That requires a great deal of intentionality. You need to know exactly who you're bringing back. Have touchstones that connect you to that person. Doing that with one person is hard enough. Doing it with twelve? You would have to be able to channel a considerable amount of power.
The only people other than myself and Rowena are dead. Maybe Hope could, but I think she would tell me if she had accidentally resurrected or transported a dozen people and Davina would have recognized her magic.
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( apparently, they have a lot in common. )
I'll keep that between us.
( No need for Elena to be in the middle of a ranking that only names her. )
Yeah, but, she didn't get kidnapped for your curse. Just - thank you.
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[She takes a sip of her drink.]
So what's next for you guys after this? Heading back to Kansas?
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( Or, are they going back to New Orleans. )
Feels like there are a lot of promises nobody asked for up in the air.
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You've got some time to figure it out. I think Elena said she didn't have to be back to work until after the New Year.
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( Just feels like a lot of plates to spin. )
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If it makes you feel better, you or Elena may not wind up responsible for all of them. I'm pretty sure Matt and potentially Jo are going to wind up on our couch just as much as yours.
[Liv is going to make a group chat called "Tyler and the Blonds."]
And most of them are grown adults. They may want to do their own thing.
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( Even her mom. It's still just a lot. And it's weird, but it could be more. And he's thinking about their Bobby, their Charlie, Kevin, Sam's Sarah. Crowley. Just people they utterly failed. )
True. And we'll let 'em provided they get enough to get off the ground.
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[Three's a little more manageable. Elena's job, his kid and her kids.]
Still more than you may want, but not nearly as painful.
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( But, she's right. The immediate shit he needs to think about. Even Sam's, Allison, her pack, is still Sam's. It's still a brother thing but... very manageable. )
Sam took care of a whole lot of displaced hunters from another universe once. If anyone can.
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I don't really like how little information we have about why they're here. Not looking a gift horse in the mouth and magic does seem complete but ... some of it is too neat for it to wholly be a side effect of the ritual.
[Maybe this is too much talking shop for a holiday party, but like Dean, Liv will never not be looking for the other shoe to drop. Nice things don't just happen and Kai is not enough of a consequence for the scale of this.]
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( He could see that, because there are people that connect to who were there - blood-wise, even, heart-wise, and then there's a six degrees of separation he can't shake. )
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A powerful coven tried a major binding ritual at the same time a centuries-old curse was broken. Those are both pretty big magical shifts. If it was just an accident, like with Elena bleeding on Matt and the magic doing what it does, it would probably be just Matt and the end of the spell wouldn't have been so ... clean. Complete.
[Liv shakes her head.]
Someone with a lot of power - or the ability to control a lot of power did this. And there are very few witches that could pull something like that off.
[A beat.]
In fact, the only two I can think of were with us in Williamstown. So it wasn't them.
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( But she's right, from there it's real hard to see the rest. Elena didn't bleed on Jeremy to get Jenna back. Nobody bled on Caroline or Tyler. They weren't even there. Cordelia, Angel, weren't there to get their friend Fred back. )
Rowena and Freya Mikaelson?
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[Her brow furrows as she considers.]
Maybe it would be worth it to have one of them have a look at them once everyone is here.
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( He doesn't know if Rowena or Freya are making the trip. He could call Rowena. )
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[Yes, thinking back on that sentence it was too vague.]
Or see if Freya had a look at any of the ones that were in New Orleans - hey Bon!
[Because Bonnie happens to be wandering by, in between conversations.]
Have you talked to Freya since the dead people started coming back?
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Liv! Merry Christmas. ( Oh, shop talk. Not to double hammer a nail down, but she needs some context. ) Not since Williamsburg, but, it's Christmas. Do you need her?
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[A beat.]
And yes, I know, it's a holiday, but in the last twenty years, have you ever known me to let go of anything?
[She will stop being all business one day.]
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( "Just going over... she and I both think this is more than just a spell gone wrong. Because there are people who appeared in Star City and New Orleans. And, apparently, Boston. Not just people who know Elena or Sam or me."
People who weren't even close to them or the fallout. )
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[Which is fortunate.]
Even if they can't have a look at our new arrivals, maybe they might know a witch who is capable of handling that kind of power.
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( Hrm. She steps away and into one of the side rooms pulling up Freya's contact. )
Merry Christmas, Freya. When you have a second, I have a question Liv and Dean posed.
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Merry Christmas. Planning another coven coup?
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Dean and Liv are positing a few theories, and one they wanted me to ask about is the power it takes to do something like this. I can see the line drawn from Elena to some, and Dean and Sam, but there are others that aren't involved with any of us, except they were brought back. Allison was there, but does she have a connection to Derek's sister. And so on.
Liv mentioned that the only two witches she would think were capable of something like this were with us for the takeover.
You and Rowena.
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I spoke with Davina about it, though I didn't examine any of them myself. She said that while she didn't recognize the magic there was something familiar to it. But the fact that the spell was complete and whole is what concerns me. That does not say accident.
That requires a great deal of intentionality. You need to know exactly who you're bringing back. Have touchstones that connect you to that person. Doing that with one person is hard enough. Doing it with twelve? You would have to be able to channel a considerable amount of power.
The only people other than myself and Rowena are dead. Maybe Hope could, but I think she would tell me if she had accidentally resurrected or transported a dozen people and Davina would have recognized her magic.
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So, we basically have a new player on the board?
And Matt and Sam and Dean's friend Jo, are they a result of that spell or this bigger one?
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